chance to speak respond to the new mitt romney. >> by necessity mitt romney --ryan has been evasive in his answers on for example budget numbers there's a lot of speculation that joe biden if he does that again joe biden will say explain to the american people i will give you all the time and will do it right now. >> biden need to be biting is what president obama said. is that what he needs to do. >> biden he is like a pitcher that throws 90 mi. an hour but to the above is going over the backstop or over home plate. this is a debate or not they will have to rely on joe biden to save the campaign is not a very good place to be. i think what it wants to buy into the pice presidential, old is on and set the table for the next debate. >> we look at the two of the candidates and what sticks out immediately is the age difference. they are far different looking right off the bat and they will be delivering a different message in a different way how was that age or to play off. >> i don't think age will play off that great a role- that tad bit of the role. i think that will not be a thing.